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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:05 pm 
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Hola,

Several months ago I bought this very nice new project, a Moto Rumi Scoiattolo from 1955, however I had no time to go to pick it up yet.

I bought it in Switzerland to a gentleman called Stefan. Switzerland as many of you knows is also the land of our good friend Rudolf Schenker (Rumisti), that offered me house and help to start the beginning of the restoration process, so I took holidays at work to enjoy a week with Rudolf, family and friends in his beautiful country. :D :D :D THANKS RUDOLF!!!!!!!

So, very exciting week is coming, and once back home a nice project to carry on for some time.

As you can see at the photo, the bike seem pretty complete. Some things need serious work, but overall I think is a good bike to restore. The engine will also need to be completely stripped.

As you can expect if you have follow my previous Rumi restorations, I will also document the process here. Maybe that will help other people in the future that are in the process of restoring another Scoiattolo.

More soon!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:15 pm 
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Good luck with your new project Hugo, these are the nicest machine to ride of all the rumi,s I have owned.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:19 pm 
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Hello Hugo, I am also as you know rebuilding a Scoiattolo, the one i bought from France in a worse condition than yours. My one is going really slowly as not a lot of spare time at the moment, and also working on my four cylinder project, plus a Formichino and a Junior Gentleman. A bit on one and a bit on another as i go along. So your Scoiattolo will be done long before mine. So your pictures will be a good reference for me. I have my one stripped down and ready to spray, but fork assembly still to strip.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:56 pm 
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Congratulations Hugo!!! Your Scoiatollo it's amazing!!!! Very good one!
It's like mine, but i intend to leave it as it is for the moment... Good luck in this job!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:51 pm 
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Thank you Graham, Arthur and Claudio for your nice words.

Looking forward to put my hands on it. Pity I will not be able to ride it before start dismantling all, it doesn't start. Graham, I heard several times about the fact that this is the most comfortable Rumi by far, really looking forward to have a ride on it, I guess that will have to wait some months.

I hope Arthur that any information I put here is helpful for your project.

Claudio, thanks for showing us your Scoiattolo. Niiiice!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:41 pm 
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Hugo, buenas tardes.

Congratulations, beautiful machine, look forward to seeing you soon.
A hug and a lot more Rumis

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:25 pm 
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Congrats Hugo and have fun ;-) Hope to see you this year in Houten
Best regards and nice summertime


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:25 pm 
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Thank you Claudio (Berlina75) and René (Opsimoto)!!! :D

Today I arrived to Switzerland and Rudolf surprised me with the bike already here, Stefan brought it this evening. I only could see it inside the trailer, but tomorrow we will take it out and start working on it.

It have been a long driving day with several traffic jams, a lot of sun, heat and to end a huge storm raining cats and dogs, arriving here late, so now is time to sleep, super tired, tomorrow will be another day, a good one!!!

More soon!! :D

(By the way, René, I will talk to you by private about the event in Houten, I would like not to miss the next one)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:25 pm 
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Hi,

Today was a very good working day on the Scoiattolo. Also was nice meeting Stefan in the morning that passed by to have breakfast with us. :D

Then Rudolf and myself started in his garage the dismantling process, I would say we did good progress.

A lot of stuck rubber and dirt was in the interior part of the scooter body, so Rudolf took the torch to make it soft, great idea, it came out much easy. The body is now close to be ready for sandblasting.

More soon.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:13 am 
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Very good idea to dismantle with rudolf present, I remember scratching my head a bit before working out the correct procedure for removing my first scoiattollo engine !.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:28 pm 
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Hi Graham, definitely Rudolf is helping me immensely. He is teaching me so many things of this Rumi model.

Today we did some work. Rudolf did a bit of sandblasting, testing electric parts coils/condensers and a few more other things. I degrease/clean many parts.

The weather was good, so after a while Rudolf took out two of his Rumi and we spend a few hours in a tour enjoying the amazing Swiss landscape. I do not get tired repeating how beautiful this country is.

Graham, you were absolutely right, the Scoiattolo is VERY confortable, a great pleasure riding it, not tired at all, opposite as happen to me riding others Rumi models. Thanks Rudolf for such a great experience!! :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:24 pm 
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Glad you liked it Hugo, the only fault I found on long rides was that the handlebars are a little too wide, not a problem on short rides , but on long stretches "200 mile +" on some Moto giro days I got some pain in my back just below my neck, it may not affect you being tall, as you know I am what we call in the UK a bit of a short arse !.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:03 pm 
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Glad you liked it Hugo, the only fault I found on long rides was that the handlebars are a little too wide, not a problem on short rides , but on long stretches "200 mile +" on some Moto giro days I got some pain in my back just below my neck, it may not affect you being tall, as you know I am what we call in the UK a bit of a short arse !.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Graham, if I ride 200 miles with any bike I feel pain everywhere, I have to admit that. I love motorcycles, very much, but my body is not physically ready to ride them for long time, with or without long arms. :lol: :lol:

Today we did a lot of progress. Any of the imperfections at the body are now corrected, but there is one specially worth to mention here. The left side "nipple" where the leg shield if connected, was in very bad condition. So Rudolf added a new replaced one. It is a pity I did not take a photo of the actual "nipple" but at the second photo is was already chop of the body. That section had also a bump, so Rudolf used different very impressive techniques to first remove the bumps and secondly welding the nipple and to finish make all surface flat with metal. If I am correct he said it was zinc, that with the torch get liquid and afterwards have to be flat before it get hard. Not easy task. Then to finish "shaping" all the surface until get uniform. Very impressive job. You can see at the photos below.

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Beside that, many cleaning have been done, there were so many parts (and still there are a few more) that need to be ready either for polishing, chroming or chemical blacking, so all need to be clean. The one that require more work have been the actual engine, that looking at the screws, I would say have never been open, and looking at the huge amount of dirt it has accumulated I would really believe that have never been opened, and in case it was ever opened, it was long time ago. So after removing more dirt than the people of the TV program "Gold Rush", finally the engine was clean. (Still pending to open it to have a look, probably tomorrow)

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Just to finalise the day, we end putting all our effort on this. It work perfectly from the beginning to the end
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:41 pm 
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Hi,

Today all parts that will need sandblasting are completely ready, so tomorrow morning we will sandblast them.

The not original hole that the headlight support had (where the ignition key was located), now is closed. A few more other holes in the scooter body and in some other parts are also closed, following the original way it should be.

More cleaning have been done in more parts.

Also the engine have been opened and check. It look pretty nice inside, the gears are in good condition, however the rubber of the seals are all hard, so they all will need to be replaced. The bearings at the gears are not bad, however I will also replace the bearings to be sure that they will last for many more years.

The crankshaft have been dismantled as well. The cylinders suffered from an oil leak caused by the bad seals (very hard rubber on it). I will mount another crankshaft I have, keeping this one dismantled as spare for the future if I need it. (I am sure I will need it)

I will also put new clutch disks, I have a brand new spare set at home.

Overall very happy with this engine, most of the components look very good, the cases as well, and the bolts too.

The pistons are ok, but I will mount two brand new. Cylinders and cylinder head are in good condition.

Front and rear sprocket will be replaced, they are worn. Drive chain as well.

More soon!! :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:54 pm 
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Hi,

Countless things have been done in the last few day, from many different areas of the scooter. I will explain them bit a bit along the restoration, we have been too busy with almost no time to even use the computer.

Here one photo of all parts sandblasted, with primer and some already painted in black.

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Very nice work !. You and rudolf are making me look forward to the autumn when my work slows down and I can spend some time in my workshop. Just got to work out what machine first ?


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A great acquisition, Hugo! Looks very complete and correct. No doubt, an ideal candidate for restoration. The restoration process has started with lightning speed, it seems. Wow!

I hope you will document the assembly process of the engine in great detail. It would be very helpful to many of us on this forum!

Since you are going to replace the pistons: Are you able to source pistons of the correct dimensions, or are you planning to have the cylinders re-bored?

In any case, a very interesting project to follow!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:08 am 
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greasy-fingers wrote:
Very nice work !. You and Rudolf are making me look forward to the autumn when my work slows down and I can spend some time in my workshop. Just got to work out what machine first ?

:lol: :lol: nice to have several projects in mind I guess. Keep us update Graham. Always interesting to see the process of the restoration of you guys.

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A great acquisition, Hugo! Looks very complete and correct. No doubt, an ideal candidate for restoration. The restoration process has started with lightning speed, it seems. Wow!
I hope you will document the assembly process of the engine in great detail. It would be very helpful to many of us on this forum!
Since you are going to replace the pistons: Are you able to source pistons of the correct dimensions, or are you planning to have the cylinders re-bored?
In any case, a very interesting project to follow!
Lars

Thank you Lars. It is indeed a nice project. This scooter has only one "real" owner all it life. Then was sold to the person that sold it to me, but it was sold in a package with other bike. He was not interested in the Rumi, so he resold it to me. The fact that the bike has only one owner all these years is something that I like very much. Never restored and I would say all the parts original, some very beat up for the use, but still a very nice project. The interior of the engine in pretty good condition (I will mount a replacement crankshaft with brand new bearings and seals), but the rest, really good. As I mentioned before, most of the screws seem to be untouched, that is very good signal.

Answering your question, I will use new 42.0 pistons on the original cylinders. No re-bored will be needed. The problem now is to find the pistons rings, to do not use the old pistons rings of the old pistons.

I will keep you update :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:26 am 
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i will send some pictures when i get started hugo, i have my second knee replacement when i stop work in october /november, so probably after christmass before i am comfortable in the workshop again. i am still not sure what rumi for this winter? but first i want to restore another of my velocette viceroy,s. "i do like my two stroke twins ;) "


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Hello Lars, go to eBay, type in rumi pistons, listings will come up. Regards Arthur


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:34 pm 
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Hi Arthur,
The parts for your Scoiattolo, are still ready and reserved for you.
Greeting Rudolf

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Beautiful Scoiatollo Hugo!!! And Rudolf is a Master! No doubt.. How I wish I have he near !!!

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Beautiful Scoiatollo Hugo!!! And Rudolf is a Master! No doubt.. How I wish I have he near !!!

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Thank you Claudio. No doubt Rudolf is a "Rumi Master Guru" :D I also wish to have him closer.

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Looks good, watching pictures closely, checked out my handlebars just now all parts present and correct. Levers, choke control and light switch. Just need to strip and get re chromed along with foot, brake pedal, gear change lever and kick start lever.


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arthur lewthwaite wrote:
Hello Lars, go to eBay, type in rumi pistons, listings will come up. Regards Arthur


Thanks for the info, Arthur. I was in fact aware of the source for pistons on eBay, but the first oversize they offer is 42.4 mm. I have been told that my old pistons in the Formichino are stamped 42.2. Apparently, that size is not available and I will have to get the cylinders re-bored to fit the next available piston size. That was the reason for my question to Hugo. But obviously, with standard size pistons, he does not have that problem. /Lars


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