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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:26 pm 
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I need to fill out the NOVA (Notice of Vehicle arrival) form. I am completely lost.

I tried to do it online but it asks for the vehicle identification number and I don't have one. Without this you can't move onto the next input page. I phoned DVLA and they told me you can't do it online you need a paper form. So I sent for the pack of forms from DVLA for importing a vehicle which has arrived today. Guess what ... it doesn't contain a NOVA form and it says you have to do it online (which is not possible). So I have now come full circle and haven't a clue what to do next.

Can anyone help?

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John.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:10 am 
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Do the nova " online", from then on it's all done by post .


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:12 am 
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Your identification number is stamped on the frame,"below your gonad,s" when seated !!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:26 am 
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I've tried Graham, You get to the part where it asks you for the vehicle identification number. Thats the number that on a car is on an aluminium plate under the bonnet. I don't have such a number on an old Rumi. Consequently I can't progress beyond that point. I click at the bottom to progress to the next page but the input box for the offending number is hi-lighted in red because it hasn't been filled in. I phoned the DVLA (at 13 pence a minute) and eventually after explaining my problem they told me it wasn't possible to do it on line and I would have to apply for a paper form. I sent for the import pack and there is no such form in it. The enclosed paperwork said I have to do it online.
I would imagine after registration I will be given a vehicle identification number but I don't have it before I start. I'm somewhat at my wits end.

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John.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:30 am 
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Are you saying I put in the chassis/frame number? I am sure I tried that but it wasn't enough characters and it didn't see it as being valid. However I will try again tomorrow. Thanks for your assistance.

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John.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:30 am 
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I expect your 1956 formichino will be 23xxx


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:33 am 
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I have done many rumi nova forms online with their 5 digit numbers , I have also done a small deemster/viceroy that has 3 digits (they only made 33 of them)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:35 am 
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(dmw deemster/viceroy)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:39 am 
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It is 23322. The annoying thing is I have all the original documentation with its original reg as F20038. It says 1955 in the document but it doesn't have the turning headlight.

I thought the Viceroy was a Velocette scooter. Was there something else with the same name?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:45 am 
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The date is a bit confusing as later in the document it gives the date as 14 Juni 1956. So I'm not really sure.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:48 am 
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Velocette made the mechanically superior viceroy, but unfortunately it was put ugly, a thing that did not go down too well with the type of person who chose a trendy lambretta or vespa back in the day, they also bought it out as the scooter boom was just finishing and sold less than 700 of them, leaving them with a shit-load of engine's left over, dmw took 33 for some wacky looking deemster police scooter/motorcycle thing. Others went on to be used in hovercraft and even unmanned drones for military target practice. Shame really as they are the nicest scooter to ride of everything I have tried.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:52 am 
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I think the first document is an import certificate (1955)
The second document is a registration certificate (1956) (and gives all 8 owners)
So it must have been made in 1955.

I quite liked the Velocette Viceroy. It looked a well made machine. Whilst I suppose it did look a bit quirky I wouldn't have minded one.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:52 am 
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I expect that's June. Usually spelt juin


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:59 am 
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Your formi would have to be late 55 to have it's 2 section rear body. Yeah I love riding my viceroy's hideous as they are !. The deemster is much clumsier on the road with its heavy non telescopics front end.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:07 am 
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Yes you are right it doesn't have the one-piece rear end of the early ones. I guess they decided it was easier to cast in two pieces after they had made a few. A shame really I like the internal toolbox, it certainly looks neater.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:09 am 
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Have you ever mounted a battery on one? Where on earth would you put it?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:57 pm 
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I've just done it on line without any problem. It must be me age.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:36 pm 
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Orac1000 wrote:
Yes you are right it doesn't have the one-piece rear end of the early ones. I guess they decided it was easier to cast in two pieces after they had made a few. A shame really I like the internal toolbox, it certainly looks neater.


I was told that the casting scrap rate needed to be reduced, so your assumption is correct!

Ian


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:49 pm 
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Orac1000 wrote:
Have you ever mounted a battery on one? Where on earth would you put it?


Now, you don't really want to complicate things by fitting a battery, which will get wrecked every winter!!!

However, it has been known for one to be placed within the nacelle, usually free floating, ghastly!

Fitting an electronic ignition with a direct lighting system (without a battery) is to be preferred.

Check out Rex Caunt's very able solution.

Ian


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:52 pm 
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What if i want to fit an electric starter :-)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:39 pm 
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Plenty of room inside the nacelle for a mounted box containing five U2 sized NiCads or a Honda C50 moped sized battery.

There is one major advantage in having a battery on board: You do not have the flickering glow-worm lighting effect when on tickover, (sitting at traffic lights for example), a battery acts as an energy sink and as a result maintains a steady voltage which is good news for bulb filaments. The flywheel generator output is matched to the wattage requirements of the lights. That is why there is that little coil gizmo mounted in the nacelle, it is there to soak up the spare energy should you decide to ride pilot light only, (headlight off).

So with all lights on the system is balanced, what then happens when you apply the brakes? The stop light need energy too so with no reserve everything can only get dimmer just when you want Mr./Mrs. Moneybags in his/her SUV to wake up to the fact that you are slowing down. If nothing else a battery will supply the reserve needed to give you a bright stop light just when you most need it.

Remember, a significant percentage of motorists are genetically programmed NOT to see anything on two wheels. Don't give 'em, or their insurance company an excuse!

A decent NiCad will store quite happily uncharged and seem unaffected by low temperatures. A lead-acid battery stores best fully charged and in a perfect world will be kept on a float charge.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:49 pm 
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Thanks for the info. I seem to remember that the lights were pretty poor anyway. Maybe the rule is best not go out in the dark.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:31 am 
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Orac1000 wrote:
Thanks for the info. I seem to remember that the lights were pretty poor anyway. Maybe the rule is best not go out in the dark.


That's right, as they say "KISS".


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:58 pm 
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Keep It Sexy Sweetie


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:33 pm 
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Hello Orac,
the chassis number "F20020" is December 1954.
Also yours is 1954 or 1955
Rudolf


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