A precision engineer near to me, will make new spindles from stainless rod. His work is exquisite.

These are the main 16mm spindles which have screw threads each end. 16mm and 12mm. (see the download spare parts page 8).

But only two are prohibitively expensive for me alone!

If I order 20 the cost will be £20 each, approximately. That's only 10 Formichinos, and at least 10 Formis must need spindles.

I want to put in an order, but I need to spread the cost. So if check yours, then order some!

Please contact me, if you need spindles. I will order these late February, delivery about a week later. That is if I can order enough.

Seetee I include here this image just to illustrate which part are you talking about.

I hope this help.

Thanks Hugo, Spot on! That's what we need.

Maybe there are other parts Formi owners need. The precision engineer has automatic, computer memory controlled equipment.

The high cost he quoted includes a high set-up cost, because of the time involved setting up.

Set-up is the biggest part of the price, until after maybe 100 units.

Cost for each will be less if I get requests for 50 spindles, than for only 20. That's 25 Formichinos!

You'd want to be VERY careful about the grade of stainless used. Most stainless steels do not have properties suited to such safety critical components. If something was to go wrong there are legal implications these days.

Stick with a good quality carbon steel such as 817M40 as per my previous recommendation which can be shown to be at least as good as the original material and just do 'yer servicing properly you lazy, er, members!!!

As seetee said at the end of the first topic, he will order these "Spindles" late February. That is if he can order enough.

I just want to remind the rules of the forum: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2&p=2#p2

So guys, if we want this "Spindles" proposal go further here, the only way would be if there is a list of people that want this spindles and share the costs. Having very clear that this is a proposal that seetee is making as individual, just to get a cheap price in the spindles that he need, and not doing this as a product supplier or to get a economic benefit.

Also I just want to remember that here is not going to be allowed to put any of these spindles for sale.

Anyway, seetee did you try to find a good lathe operator to make just 2 spindles for you?, A few years ago I needed an specific part of my gearbox and I ordered to be made by a lathe operator that did a great job, and the price was not expensive. To be honest I think this would be the best and easier solution.

I hope everybody understand that this comment here is just to keep the same good atmosphere that is reigned in the forum so far, and to avoid misunderstanding. Please help me to make of this forum a nice place to stay.

Cheers

Hugo and all,

I need spindles, and have too little patience. So now PLAN B will commence.

Today I bought myself a lathe and will start to make the spindles for myself.

I tried two local engineers, but got no actual price. I was asked to leave the spindle, then to pay the bill when 2 new ones were finished. Who can guess the price?

The precision engineer makes multiples of articles on his automatic machinery, and is too expensive for 2, or even 10 of anything.

My Formi was abandoned in a shed 31 years before I bought it, with knackered spindles! Its OK otherwise.

Formichinos must consume these spindles over time, so owners will require replacements. Many owners.

I will not knowingly break Rumi Club rules, but if my new spindles are successful, I will post that on the Forum. Anyone who needs them might then like to contact me. At least I will have an accurate cost.

Hi Seetee




Welcome to the tortuous and exciting world of the restoration......!


one of the first rules is to have a lot of perseverance and patience.

Other important conditions are the following: having free time; the know that this hobby is very expensive; and also, a one service group with training to solve the mechanical problems and aftermarket.

for these reasons above mentioned ,many collectors bought their motorcycles fully restored.

All who opt to returning at her life these wonderful machines, in a more or less time, arrived to understanding these concepts.

Of course, everyone, in any circumstance, have a need for manufacture a new piece to replace a other in poor condition.

Therefore, most of us, are always close to one of these good and creative, lathe operators.
these have a lot of patience and a mercy in our strange requests for our works, and on many occasions, over time, become our new friends.


Request the manufacturing small parts and in small quantities, to lathe operators who live far apart in distance, in many cases, generate a mailing cost , more expensive than the piece itself –


you're an adult, and made your own decisions, but if you considerate an good option to recover the cost of buying a lathe, with expectative to having the parts sold to the members of this forum, I think my previous comment, can be of value -.


several collectors preserved an amateur spirit in this pleasant activity ,..., not always, mixing business with pleasure is a good option .


Best regards

Juan

OH DEAR, OH DEAR!

Surely some missunderstanding here.

Rare stamps are for collecting, rare scooters are for riding.

I fully intend to ride my Rumi as soon as I get it roadworthy, and not to tinker in my shed for years.

I see no reason for objection to my offer? (Nor to my earlier offer). The lathe i bought for my own use with my money, as my new toy. But spindles will have a cost in material and time. If someone asks me to make something, should I therefore refuse, or should I make it as a gift?

Unreasonable, in my opinion.

Is the suggestion that we remain each in our own bubble, to preserve 'amature' status?

Or perhaps the suggestion is that I should be happy to pay someone else the full cost of £200 for just one pair of spindles, to preserve the exclusive nature of Rumi ownership. And that others should do the same?

I suggest it is better to source our requirements, then share the knowledge and the cost with other interested members. I for one, have bought various items from members.

What is there to dissagree with, or object to?

Regards, Chris

Seetee, I see the issue in this way. You commented here that you are going to manufacture yourself this spare for your Formichino and you bought the lathe for this task. Perfect, now everybody know that.
Once you have the spare done, would be great if you comment here how good/bad this was made and your final impression.

If in the future another member of this forum need the same spare, and this person read your topic where you commented that you did this spare yourself, it is very possible that this person contact you to know more about, and by private message or email you both can do whatever you feel is good, not involving this forum and not offering your time and equipment to do a job for money. Perhaps this looks not important, but this is against the rules of the forum, if we accept this deal in public, it would set a precedent that would culminate in a routine that would be not possible to stop.

According the way you are raising the issue, you are offering to do a job on request for money, and this is not allowed in the forum.

I ask you please not to mix the fact that other members are offering in the forum spares that they don't need anymore, against offer your services to manufacture new spares. Even if is very cheap and is a win win situation, still is against the forum rules.

As I commented before, if another member read that you made this spare and this person need one, probably is going to contact you, but please offline, by private you both can do everything you think is better, but please not in public, I think what I'm asking is reasonable.

I really hope you understand my point in all this matter.

Regards, Hugo

Hugo,
Thankyou for your kind explanation.

I will accept your rules on the forum, as now explained to me. Arguing here is useless. And I now understand, right or wrong, rules are rules!

I have always liked to believe the earth is round, and it goes round the sun. In some societies I would be expelled, or even killed for my belief.

Some believe in a flat earth. And rules are rules for obeying.

Regards,
Chris

I think hugomez is right in this, without such a rule we would leave the site and ourselves open to commercial exploitation, we would have every Arthur Dayley and his brother getting on here trying to sell all sorts of tat.

We do have a "Wanted & For Sale" section of course.

I know that UHJ200, and you just posted on it.

Can someone please explain to me what the flat earth people and astronomical observations have to do with Rumi spares. Come on lets keep the forum pertaining to the interest and riding of our chosen classic icons.

Seetee,


-please. on this case, is not correct to think that the Earth orbits at you –

-I do not think it is so difficult to understand that not an very friendly option. to want impose your own rules when you're cordially invited to the house of another person –

-Every gentleman, having read the rules,can accept with pleasure the conditions to share this forum or not.
-Surely people who see the world in another form has other places to meet.

-Even,is not very practical, divide people according to a flat or round vision of the earth, mostly us, agre on an oblate Spheroid vision of the earth and at rotated around its own axis.

Juan

can anyone tell me when the next full eclipse of the sun is due? i need to check out the lights on my rumi,and am not allowed out at night-time!!!!!!!!!

Hello Seetee, Getting back to reality and sanity, I would offer a suggestion to your link swivel pin problem.
Many years ago when I had my Vincent Black Shadow, it used to eat cam followers. To overcome the problem, I and my mate had our cam followers diamond hard chromed by a Industrial chrome plating company. This cured wear problems.
Maybe if the threads at each end of your swivel pins are O.K. then it might be an idea to skim the pins and the have them plated or even metalsprayed to build them up again. You will need them to be ground after resurfacing.
It may be cheaper and an alternative to remaking the swivel pins.

Thanks Tony,
My right hand pin was also loose in the fork. Result - worn 1mm out oval drillings, and 2 depressions in the spindle where it has rubbed.
PB bushes all worn.
I'm going to make a trial run/prototype. If it works I'll make 2 harder wearing versions.
Watch this space.

And greasy-fingers, For Your Info., in the UK
Next total eclipse 23 September 2090..........Don't wait up!
seetee

Blimey! I would have thought your mum would have realised by now that your old enough to go out at night-time!!!!!!!!
Or is it likely that you'll turn into a "Weirwolf"???????