Here is my Rumi Juniors

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Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by karmannia » Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:55 pm

Hi everybody, I have just get a rumi junior for restauration. I have lot of questions, please take a look at the photos and tell me what you find, what is correct and what is wrong.
It has steel cylinders and wheels. I read that the last juniors came with it. But I not sure. I also have one KS cylinder, the left one, so if someone have a right one please let me know.
The frame number is 664, can someone identify the year of the junior?
Thanks a lot

Ivan from Buenos Aires
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by hugomez » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:08 pm

Hi Ivan,

Even if we have been talking by email several times already, I give you the welcome to the forum. It is nice to see the photos of your Junior here.

Hopefully you will get some answers about the cylinders and frame number. Can you also tell us the engine number?, this may help to know a bit more about your Junior if this engine is the original that was in the bike from factory.

Greetings and WELCOME again ;)
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by arthur lewthwaite » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:47 pm

Ivan, looking at the pictures of your junior, the petrol tank, the brakes, exhaust silencer, the frame rear tube and lugs, and seat, this would not be the later model gentle man, but a junior of around the years 1955 to 1957. Look a Fred Wells bike that he obtained from Lasse to see what yours should look like. Pictures on site, I'm sure Hugo will send a link of this.
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RUMISTI » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:18 am

Hello Arthur,
Please look in the book "MOTO RUMI" by Riccardo Crippa, on page 85 and 94. Ivan's Junior is not very wrong. The "JUNIOR" of Lasse should not be used as a reference.
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by arthur lewthwaite » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:24 pm

Hello Rumisti, just generalising roughly how it should look, obviously Lasses had earls forks plus Lasses little personal touches, Arthur

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by hugomez » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:51 am

Hi Ivan,

Here the photos that Rumisti (Rudolf) is talking about from Crippa's book in the meantime you do not receive the copy of the book that you ordered online.
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:51 pm

Hi Ivan, as you know, your motorcycle isn't a Junior Gentleman, it's an Argentine Junior. This model was comercialized, only in our country. The Junior Gentleman, had, Marzocchi forks and front wheel hub, and yours have Rumi forks and front wheel hub, all this with 2º series Junior Gentleman gasoline tank, as telescopic junior had here...

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:01 pm

by the way, this metal tank, fitted first to our Telescopic Junior and then, was used for the 2nd series Junior Gentleman.

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Claudio

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by hugomez » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:26 pm

Hi Claudio,

I did know that there is a Rumi Sport that was only made in Argentina that use a different frame as the one use at all other countries, but I had no idea that there were also Argentinian versions of Rumi Junior.

Do you have photos for all of us to see the differences?

What I deduce from Ivan's photos is that this bike was use for racing, then somebody drilled the frame to reduce weight, or perhaps this is something original of the Argentinian Junior :lol: (just a joke)

If this bike was use for racing perhaps many parts have been replaced from the original bike.

Ivan mentioned here the frame number 664. Perhaps somebody with a factory listing can provide more information about what is this bike?

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:59 pm

No no.... The Rumi Sport frame, argentine model, was made here, but this junior is entirely italian, only to fit this gasoline tank for export to argentina. Then this tank is used to fit in gentleman 2º series.

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:01 pm

The seat and the mudguards could be made here, as in the formichinos too..


Saludos

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by karmannia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:32 pm

Cláudio thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. There is always something new to learn about the history of Rumi.
Thank you!
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:03 pm

A few days ago, i bought this Rumi Junior Steel fuel tank (argentine model, like Ivan's junior), but in this oportunity, the fuel tank it's different from all the tanks i've seen so far. Can somebody tell me anything about this tank?? It's this tank known by any of you??

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Thank you in advance;

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:06 pm

Sorry Ivan for use your post!!

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:03 pm

Another image, with the other steel tank by side.
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:49 pm

nothing to say??

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Claudio...

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by hugomez » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:12 pm

Unfortunately Claudio, I do not know almost anything about the Junior model, perhaps somebody that has one or more can give some details of the fuel tanks variety.

Did you buy this Rumi Junior?
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Post by RF125 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:29 pm

Yes Hugo, it's mine.
i'll be waiting for a response about this gasoline tank..

Thank you.

Claudio

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by hugomez » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:26 am

Congratulation Claudio!!!, what a nice project!!! ;)
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:51 pm

hugomez wrote:Congratulation Claudio!!!, what a nice project!!! ;)

Thank you!

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by Ian Skinner » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:49 pm

Hi Claudio

I'm always on the lookout for that tank of yours. I'm sorry for the quality of these photos. However there maybe some similarity to yours. This tank is fitted to a small Laverda that set a record at the Bonneville Salt Flats in 2012. I must say that I have not seen this style of tank fitted to a Laverda before.

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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:28 pm

Thanks Ian, this tank looks like a tank Sport, my junior tank, although it is different from the gentleman, it's a junior tank. I attached some pictures to appreciate the differences.
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Post by RF125 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:30 pm

More pictures...
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:50 pm

Ivan sent me some pictures from his junior tank (gentleman type), and i compared it. You can see the pictures :
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by RF125 » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:59 pm

One more:
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Re: Here is my Rumi Juniors

Post by tony mooring » Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:00 pm

Hi Claudio, Here is a picture of my two Rumi Juniors I use to have. The Junior Gentleman is the one in the rear and shows the Gentleman tank.
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