Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by greasy-fingers » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:47 pm

Great information Claudio, I want to try to keep my machine as close to as it left the factory as practical, I didn't want to spend a lot of money getting the suspension units overhauled and then find out I had the wrong ones. Did you have a good experience with the company that overhauls the Sturchers? Do they complete the whole task or did you get the chroming /painting done yourself? Sorry for all the questions! Thanks again, Graham

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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by RF125 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:57 pm

I know there is an especialist for this job in europe, but i didn't gave mine to him, i made mine here, in Argentina, little far away for you..
Edoardo Marsiletti can give to you more details.


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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by hugomez » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:48 pm

Hi Claudio and Graham,

I know these photos are not going to clarify the doubts about the shock absorbers, however the photos are great, worth to have them here together with the others Moto Rumi Regolarita Sei Giorni photos :D
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Post by RF125 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:58 pm

Hugo, in the first and in the third photo, we can see the valves in the rear shock absorvers...

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Post by hugomez » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:06 pm

RF125 wrote:Hugo, in the first and in the third photo, we can see the valves in the rear shock absorbers...
Thanks!
Awesome!!!

Here two more photos. Still a Regolarita but in this case is not a Sei Giorni, however the photos are priceless.
How many horse powers you say it has?, well, add also two cows. :lol:
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Post by greasy-fingers » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:54 pm

Thanks Claudio and Hugo. I have not seen the second picture with the cows before, but the first one has been my favourite Rumi picture for a while = truly epic !!

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Post by RF125 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:26 pm

Here we can see the other two Argentines Sei Giorni, both with the valves....
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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by RF125 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:27 pm

Regarding the different rear shock absorbers, one theory may be that due to the high cost of the adjustable shock absorbers, once the originals were damaged, the user decided to place some without regulation. Or maybe, when the users decided to replace the shock absorbers, the Sturchers could not be achieved because the factory had a short life .... Remember, that Sturcher shock absorvers, were a luxury piece, and were a little expensive....

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Post by RF125 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:31 pm

greasy-fingers wrote:Hi Claudio, I have started to inspect the Sei Giorni I got from Noah. I am interested to know what size wheel rims your one originally came with. Most of the information says the Sei Giorni has 18" rims but my one has 19" and it looks original. Also do you have the correct flanged steel rims available in Argentina? I am struggling to find them available over here unless I use alloy. Regards, Graham.

Regarding to the rims, i have two diferent models of steel H profile rims, both originals from Rumi, one of ITALCERCHIO and the other ESPADA, see the pictures...

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Post by RF125 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:47 pm

Searching in my records, i see that both ITALCERCHIO and ESPADA is the same factory, first it was ESPADA and then it was derived in ITALCERCHIO

And also we are sure that the Rumi SEI GIORNI was equipped with these rims.
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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by greasy-fingers » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:07 pm

thank you Claudio, very thorough detail, the one rim I have is very rusty I will examine it when I get the chance to see if there are any makers marks. interesting rear seat brackets on the two argentine machines, I have no rear brackets on the frame to attach my seat, do you think the type on the red machine are correct ?, it looks like the mounting points on my seat would attach to this type of bracket. graham.

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Post by RF125 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:12 pm

The bracket in the Grey sei, it's not original.

It's more simple:
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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by greasy-fingers » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:25 pm

Yes - very simple, I can copy these. Thanks. Graham.

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Post by hugomez » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:34 pm

Hi,

I am posting this on behalf on Graham Fisher (greasy-fingers).

He wrote:

Can anyone confirm the make/manufacturer of these rear shock absorbers? They are fitted to my Moto Rumi Regolarita Sei-Giorni and look the same as other non adjustable rear shockers fitted to a few of the Sei-Giorni. I suspect they are Sturcher, as the top rubber buffer is identical to the ones on the adjustable Sturcher front shockers that came on the same machine. There is a mark on them, where a sticker the same size and shape as on the front Sturchers was previously fitted.
They where originally black and chrome, but have been overpainted matt black.
Thanks in advance. Regards, Graham.

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Post by hugomez » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:21 pm

Hi Graham,

You mentioned that somebody has paint on top of them with matt paint. Is there the possibility that the thick layer of paint covered the brand and other engraved information?

If you see the photos of this pair of Sturcher, the info is engraved there.
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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by RF125 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:27 pm

OK! well, if this shock absorvers are Sturcher, maybe the Rumi factory could install them according to their economic availability or stock in the Sturcher's factory.


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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by greasy-fingers » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:39 pm

Rudolf/Hugo/Claudio, thanks for your continued help with my questions, unfortunately there are no engraved/stamped letters /numbers/makers emblems to be seen under the paint. They look very similar to the Sturcher ones you have shown, but not identical. My ones are also 28cm between centres but have removable 2 piece mounting buffer/rubbers. Also a separate ring that is trapped by the collets that I can't see on the Sturcher pictures. I have cleaned one of my ones up a bit better and can see the feint remains of an oval slicker. I need to look at this through a microscope to see if any identification marks can be seen. I will post my findings.
Claudio are your rear Sturchers 28cm?. The Sturcher "adjustable type" that came with my Rumi Junior look like your Sei Giorni's shrouded rear ones, but are a bit shorter. If these are more correct for my Sei Giorni than the ones that came with it I am sorry for the Junior, but they will get donated! Regards, Graham.

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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by RF125 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:11 pm

Yes! it has 28cm aprox...

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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by greasy-fingers » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:34 pm

thanks Claudio.

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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by RF125 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:18 pm

Hi Graham, can you place the seat in its place and take some photos from above and back to be able to observe the dimensions of it?

i'm working in my seat and i want to be sure what i'm doing...
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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by greasy-fingers » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:08 pm

hi Claudio, I am really sorry I cant help you, my seat has been sent to Italy for re- upholstery. I have some photo,s of it that I took before I sent it, but none of it on the frame. I can send these to your email address if they would be of use . regards and apologies graham. rumi125@live.co.uk

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Post by RF125 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:14 pm

Ahh ok, no Graham, thanks. I have all the photos that can be taken from your seat, i need pictures on the frame....

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Post by greasy-fingers » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:42 pm

I will take some as soon as it is returned to me, such a shame after you have helped me with so much information that I cannot return a favour, regards graham.

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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by greasy-fingers » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:42 am

hi again Claudio, would it be possible to show any details of the front wheel fixing - shaft / quick release holding nuts with handles / any spacers / the brake plate locating that is bolted to the two brake shoe pivot pins, I have the correct hub "160mm -not 175mm as stated in the crippa book" with all its internal parts but it appears that the fixings have been lost over the years. any help would be great. thanks again graham.

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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by RF125 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:47 pm

Hi Graham, i have no pictures from my front shaft, but it's a cilindrical shaft, without diferents diameters. It's easy...
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Re: Regolaritá Sei Giorni (Claudio - Argentina)

Post by greasy-fingers » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:15 pm

perfect Claudio, you are a great help. regards graham.

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